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ErdelWee HaggisArbroath, Scotland41 Posts
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05 Jun 2010 |  Posted - 15 Sep 2009 : 12:35:32 PM    
Heard that Asda are putting in planning permission to build a store in Forfar. Lucky them
Arbroath is becoming a joke these days for Supermarkets and shops.
I am sure that I am not alone saying that there really isn't much choice in the town to buy (Decent) kids clothes/shoes, womens clothes/shoes, mens clothes/shoes, toys.
I find myself shopping more and more in Dundee.
Anyone else??
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Smokie1756Senior Smokie  Scotland455 Posts
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23 Aug 2010 | Posted - 15 Sep 2009 : 5:14:49 PM
Aye and look the number of supermarkets Farfar has!!! Has anyone heard from ASDA if they are going to develop Arbroath site - wherever it may be????
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TimeshiftWee Smokie  Arbroath, Scotland206 Posts
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16 Aug 2010 | Posted - 16 Sep 2009 : 07:35:01 AM
@ erdel,,tend to agree, much as I would like to support local enterprise, there is just not enough choice in the town and like erdel and so many others find myself shopping in Dundee / Perth, if your a woman needing your hair done or a suntan then look no further, try counting the amount of hairdressers in the West port, Five from Millgate to the Station. |
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ErdelWee HaggisArbroath, Scotland41 Posts
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05 Jun 2010 | Posted - 16 Sep 2009 : 12:36:15 PM
Honestly if we all kept shopping in Arbroath we'd be going about like clones, same clothes on lol.
Yes I had noticed we seem to be the sunbed capital of Angus. With all the reports of how bad sunbeds are for you why so many??
We don't want more salons it's decent shops we need and want.
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Smokie1756Senior SmokieScotland455 Posts
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23 Aug 2010 | Posted - 18 Sep 2009 : 10:15:48 AM
The Cooncil are getting tough about the ASDA development in Farfar - cough up or bye bye!!! But possibly prophetic words from Bob Spink too.
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2009/09/18/newsstory13804878t0.asp
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Gully64Wee HaggisArbroath, Scotland5 Posts
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12 May 2010 | Posted - 21 Sep 2009 : 6:17:34 PM
Good luck to Forfar and Montrose for thier applications for Asda & Sainsbury,
Thats what Angus needs and it's a shorter trip then Dundee.
Look forward to our trips to Forfar if they get the go ahead and I'm sure they will,
Much better shops then our sad boring ''High Street''
Anyone need a perm or Suntan, Lol
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GaryTSenior Smokie United Kingdom998 Posts
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18 Aug 2010 | Posted - 21 Sep 2009 : 9:23:54 PM
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Originally posted by Smokie1756
The Cooncil are getting tough about the ASDA development in Farfar - cough up or bye bye!!! But possibly prophetic words from Bob Spink too.
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2009/09/18/newsstory13804878t0.asp
Agreed that the potential purchaser should put up or shut up, regarding the purchase.
But I reckon Bob Spink may be correct with his 'prophecy'.
Asda could come in and offer a mega price for the site only for them to be stalled, in the same way they were for the Westway site in Arbroath.
Bloody councillors  .
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Smokie1756Senior SmokieScotland455 Posts
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23 Aug 2010 | Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 10:23:39 AM
Just remember you elected, sorry the guid fowk o' Angus elected them Cooncillors to do as they, The Cooncil, saw fit.
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TerrymacMaster Smokie  United Kingdom1116 Posts
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2 days ago | Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 5:09:58 PM
The majority of Angusw fowk did not vote... So it can be blamed on the majority of the fowk in the minority of people that voted and elected the present council that do as they see fit...
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GaryTSenior SmokieUnited Kingdom998 Posts
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18 Aug 2010 | Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 8:55:16 PM
So we are exempt from actually being allowed to have a wee bit if criticism towards our elected members, I'm one in the majority of the minority of 'fowk' who voted, so I'll vent my spleen whichever way I feel 'fit'.
I do live in Angus after all.
Now, I'll jog on, ya follow gents???
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Nick BirseWee Haggis United Kingdom44 Posts
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30 Aug 2010 | Posted - 22 Sep 2009 : 8:59:53 PM
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Originally posted by Terrymac
The majority of Angusw fowk did not vote... So it can be blamed on the majority of the fowk in the minority of people that voted and elected the present council that do as they see fit...
Apathy rules but nobody cares..... and a Cllrs. job is not one I would want..
It's worth mentioning Terry, if we're getting into the murky world of voting, that the previous SNP administrations were responsible for the Westway fiasco in the first place, and I would not be surprised if they were also responsible for the planning conditions relating to St James House, as everything goes back to the various local plans submitted by the then SNP administration over 10 years ago (and if you trace it back, it possibly goes back to national planning policies and guidelines set down by Labour, Conservative (or even Labour before Thatcher & Major) policy laid down before things like the Scottish Parliament came along).
The previous administrations were also voted in with similar levels of turnout (or similar levels of voter apathy). It is still quite likely that if the people of Angus were once again given just one option on who they want to have as their council, the SNP would quite easily win a majority of the votes as they did in the past, that majority (as a % of the vote) would likely be the same regardless of whether 10% voted or whether 100% voted.
There's also the issue of the current administration, as I understand it, the SNP were quite some distance away from obtaining enough votes to have a couple of extra councillors and thus a majority in the composition of the council, and with the system used, if 10% or 100% vote, the composition is quite unlikely to change, there's enough people voting to assume if 100% turned out, the percentages voting for any one party would be very similar.
I honestly don't think anything has changed with the council, the alliance are being hamstrung by the same rules and regulations that left the last administration high and dry over issues like ASDA @ Westway. The infighting is off-putting, but given both sides are at fault there, I don't think it's going to drastically affect the % of the vote each party or councillor attracts at the next election, I tend to think turnout will be down though.
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TerrymacMaster SmokieUnited Kingdom1116 Posts
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2 days ago | Posted - 23 Sep 2009 : 2:45:38 PM
Hi Nick.... Points taken and noted although I was quite aware of many. I blame the voters still anyway and moan about people who don't make a decision and choose not to vote thereby squandering their right to have a say in who "governs" us locally.
SNP is the majority party in Angus but Council is ruled by minority parties who have formed a coalition....
Roll on proportional representation, assuming it is done fairly... The present method of voting (unfair to my mind) can, and does, allow Cllrs to be elected with the tiniest amount of electoral support...
Anyway Arbroath desperately needs a large Supermarket more than any other toon in Angus. |
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stanSenior Smokie Canada588 Posts
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12 Aug 2010 | Posted - 23 Sep 2009 : 4:02:45 PM
Proportional representation? I think some Northern Irish folk would disagree with that? is that not jerrymandering?
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TerrymacMaster SmokieUnited Kingdom1116 Posts
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2 days ago | Posted - 27 Sep 2009 : 09:40:11 AM
I believe in fairness and I honestly believe that proportional representation is the way to go....
Northern Ireland is a "made up" country by the British parliament when they "divorced" it from Eire to allow majority protestant population to live as they wanted... Catholics were shunned, refused jobs, could not join police and especially, effectively stopped from voting... Thank god it is changing there.
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Smokie1756Senior SmokieScotland455 Posts
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23 Aug 2010 | Posted - 04 May 2010 : 6:59:15 PM
Here is news article about Farfar ASDA from todays STV Tayside news
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/174838-supermarket-giants-earmark-former-angus-council-hq/
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guitarpeteHaggis Supper   Arbroath, Scotland50 Posts
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19 Jul 2010 | Posted - 05 May 2010 : 10:05:08 AM
Big blurb from front page onwards in todays Forfar Dispatch may also be in other Johnston group papers too |
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boristhespieSenior Smokie Arbroath, Scotland865 Posts
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01 Jul 2010 | Posted - 07 May 2010 : 2:57:25 PM
Whether a party is voted into governemet with 100% of the vote or just 1% if they got a majity of the votes they are in charge. IF people were apathetic and didn't vote that is irrelevant, as are the views of these people. As they simply don't matter electorially. The are irelevant.
Yorski Borski Morski, famunchski. Helgulans hinkie pinkie, yazoooo! |
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TerrymacMaster SmokieUnited Kingdom1116 Posts
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2 days ago | Posted - 07 May 2010 : 4:13:43 PM
Sorry to disagree with your observation that "first past the post" with a 100% or 1% "above" should govern us...
It could mean that a party gains power with less than 30% of the voters and the remaining 70% don't get what they voted for, or even have a say.
Our current voting system is archaic and unfair.
I agree that the parts of the population that did not vote should not moan!! |
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TerrymacMaster SmokieUnited Kingdom1116 Posts
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2 days ago | Posted - 07 May 2010 : 4:19:03 PM
I hope both towns get supermarkets... Gives Arbroathians another place to shop. |
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Proposed Asda store in Forfar.
